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Based on the ATA statement? So again you admit you have not seen the report by the AG. And you have never seen the report on this one. Obviously...

Bottom line is they are not available .....isn't that right Bat? And where is Merlo?

Bat You said Who released it? I haven't seen the report. You? Why? What makes it seem that way? You said it was not released? Now it has been?...

It is not available this way. I am confident the folks here will give us the straight up report. Bat, I wonder tho how much skin you have in the...

How does a self proclaimed trap expert get to the 27 with an average close to 80? Did this guy shoot in WV much?

Being that the sport has been turned into a sport of perfection what would you think would happen? Could be the kids are smarter than you think.?...

No points.

We need Jake or Luke on site to give us a view of the program.

WoWie ....great post ltsc1. Let's break it down further. Dissect it like a biology lab. So maybe a bad decision was made years ago. Let it rest....

dawg to continue..... the following quote from Dan Bonillas on this forum. I asked Dan what he thought one of the biggest problems are with...

According to the statistics, that being that only 2 shooters were capable of shooting a 100 straight from the 27 at the GAH, the distance could have...

That is BS Ollie. That was when you made the AA team based on puffed up handicap average. If you want to point to a person's average then you...

2 people shot 100 from the 27 prior to the targets being narrowed. If it were easy they all would have done it. They had problems from the 25.

You made the same misleading statement before. Many of the big dawgs continued to chase the averages by going to the cheat clubs that were still...

What year was Brit?

None of the big dogs ever broke 100 straight from the 27 at the GAH until the angles were made easier. "Never"! Until the angle changes. Tell...

You imply that a lot/to others that disagree with you. Is that due to your age?

Again dawg it was the op's suggestion. One you even remotely failed to poke a hole in. The delegate numbers would probably add up to the same you...

Costs offset with the cheaper targets. Ollie you did say they would have to be perfectly pointed. Maybe not so... Rieger struggled at the...

Dawg.......the idea was not mine as I said but again you failed to knock a hole in it. You said: Dawg before you take a nap --the game was designed...

Dawg Cant shoot from the back fence as you ( i mean you dawg) as you cant see targets from back there? I suggest you tighten up them wooden teeth...

It would make it tough on the back fence guys. Breaking a 100 would be more difficult. That is the purpose of the handicap system.

Dawg I used to handset targets. But again, that is not how the question was asked.

I agree dawg. That is not how the question was asked. If some type midi was made that would fit the machines it could help with handicapping....

Dont shoot clays anymore. A long time ago we shot some smaller targets at a course that were tuff to kill. I am sure HB could confirm there have...

Gee jb63 that surprises me. If you want yardage how about spending the quarter and calling the ATA. Tired of the "everyone is a winner"...

Up for those asking.

Up for those asking about the lease.

Federal Money should be available for this. FEMA trailers could be used as a substitute for vendor buildings.

The Romney of the forum has spoken.

Pumpgun Bob So tell me why you chose to bring up all those subjects rather than offer something to the forum. Hmmmmmm. Could it be you have...

The Glock guy that could be out there. Protecting Merlo?

The top shooters will always be the top shooters from the 16. Try breaking 25 straight from the 27 with 1 ounce. Tough! Try it with 7/8 from the...

It has to be lighter. Simply picking a load would have a negative effect. You could pick 1 1/4. Ouch.

Part of that is good but it does not address the issue mentioned by jhunts. Recoil is reduced with lighter loads increasing the interest in shooting...

The game would be cheaper to play. The handicap system would correct itself.

I see a column that says recommendation (0) and a total of -1,412. Didn't the governor earlier veto around $200k for fixing the road? Spell it any...

But he may have an interest in having him / them removed.

Does Gipson sell the Glock line of guns at his business at the WSRC?

Duff, Tentative dates. Read the forum. Read the MOU threads. Quit acting like the forum idiot. I am moving on.

Duff.....again you get it completely wrong. See FG's discussion with Monica at the IDNR. There are no agreements beyond the MOU to have the AIM or...

That's the point Duff. You don't know anything about the schedule cause not even the IDNR knows anything about the schedule. Yet you rant about...

Right here.... ------------------------------------ Why Duff are they going to be the same? That seems to conflict with the statement from the...

OK Duff as you are the expert on the WSRC. And obviously you know more than Monica the person in charge. Tell us what the next event is that is...

These guys wouldn't be making a vague MOU like announcement right before the Southern Grand would they?

An expert pistol shooter no less I am sure. Get to Sparta. They got one coming up. This will bring in big money for the ATA. Even announced it on...

Upcoming schedule according to the IDNR. http://www.dnr.illinois.gov/recreation/WSRC/Pages/InteractiveEventsCalendar.aspx

The CC thinks they can offer more for less without charging extra for porta potties and water coolers. They did not feel the need to force a big...

This is a sophisticated forum for Federal. A major step up. Give him encouragement. Anyone got one of those phonics tapes we can send him?...

No it doesn't add up. Who expects the ATA to give an honest answer when the posted letter says otherwise?