30 days would be a long time with today's technology.
I was thinking American Trapshooting Organization! I know for a fact the computers are in place. You heard it here.
She did not have to see the numbers. Hearing the numbers should have made her chuckle. She is on a sinking ship and the band keeps playing.
If some ATA officials conspired to make personal profits or misappropriated monies from the ATA to purchase a building they could have had much...
Where did the Attorney General say that?
A building in Vandalia was torn down after the purchase. Was all this to move the office away from Vandalia and closer to a certain gun shop? What...
You said it was a concern of the AG not the ATA.
Bat, tell us how this transaction did not affect the ATA?
Bat Did the Real Property Committee do their due diligence? Check with your pals. That seems to be the subject here. What would they like you to...
Great question Bat. It is a question I doubt you want answered. d-u-e d-i-l-i-g-e-n-c-e Confused Bat? It is a requirement or bar for the...
What does it matter? That is the best you can do Bat. Don't have any idea? Is that what your pals expect you to say? And you don't know how the...
Bat Lets have you answer the question Merlo asked?
Later than normal. Really Bat? Is that what your pals want you to say? "Later than normal?' How often does the ATA get investigated by the...
[ATTACH] Bat, the letter above, signed by Gipson says, the AG contacted the ATA. No mention of this being the opinion of an attorney.
Where did you see a statement from an attorney? If you have a statement signed by an attorney then post it.
Bat, these minutes were never discussed before. Why did it take so long for the minutes to be posted?
What's wrong Bat? The minutes were only recently posted. Maybe you could put a list of items on the board that infuriates any crooks in charge?...
We had the announcement earlier that Gipson wanted no part of the Glock guy. If I remember right Gipson was accusing Glock of crashing his party....
No state gives it's parks away. lol All lands would be auctioned off.
It was incompetent leadership that chose a place that could not attract flies. Location... Most don't care anymore. Let the ATA die. I can shoot...
Sure.....the State of Illinois will give a state park to a private organization. What are you smoking?
Hmmmm....someone please translate. Columbus is backing out of a challenge or not? Who would be afraid of shooting against a one footed fellow that...
James...dont forget those old 90 averages also reflected 1200 fps shells. Tough to shoot 1200 fps at wide angles. Not mentioned by Smithy is that...
Now there is a real scientific study. How many tournaments will you win with a 90? Time for graph.
Really Rosey? How do you interview the 30,000 members that left? Don't they count anymore? Is it because many of those remaining cant remember or...
Shout out to a guy that used to be on here often. That fellow that named himself after a virus and knows everything about the by-laws. A shout to...
A licensed appraiser gave an appraisal of 132k for a piece of property that was not only being leased but also had an agreement to sell to the...
Bat Did someone tell you this was just about the Attorney General in Illinois? Are they the only folks that would investigate this?...
Why? Who told you the investigation(s) are over.
Bat...to continue The EC is not even permitted to do improvements to Real Property without the advise of the Real Property Committee and the vote...
Bat to continue.....the ATA made it real simple. Note the words "at no time acquire in any manner real property". [ATTACH]...
Give it any name you want Bat. The OP's post is about the deal done without the Real Property Committee and the Board of Directors. All you want to...
Bat From Investopedia.....Companies often find it necessary or beneficial to sign a lease agreement. A capital lease is recorded on the balance...
Does not matter. They paid over $50k to acquire it. Why? It is a temporary asset of theirs. Why is it hidden? Property you rent is an asset....
The $400,000 was the cost of the investment to obtain the real property. Bat again is trying to muddy the waters. The $50k limit does not have...
This is the definition of real property.....posted for Bat and anyone he is trying to fool. real property n. 1) all land, structures, firmly...
Bat...... You know real property as defined by law is rental property. That is the purpose of the Real Property Committee. The Attorney General...
Bat, You know that is not true? The State of Illinois can leave any or all of the lease if they chose to do so again. If the state decides it...
Bat, Where did you get that? If the IDNR can't afford to make those payments someone has to do it. That is the point of the vague MOU right?...
Give it any name. If it costs over 50k for the length of the agreement the Real Property Committee had to advise the BOD right? And they did not...
Bat, You have convinced me that a new MOU has been added to create new terms. Those new terms, call it what you want, create a new lease. You...
Bat I am betting you are bright enough to have been on a Real Property Committee. Let's say you are right. The new terms of the new lease include...
You cannot incorporate terms of an MOU as there are no terms of an MOU. MOU's are not worth the paper they are written on. MOU's cannot be part...
Then the sport is a failure!
Tom....just a bit of news. When there were over 4,000 shooters at Vandalia, you had to show up to shoot. If you dont have time to shoot that is a...
How much time did trapshooting take when we had 3 times as many shooters? Nonsensical! I am betting tomk did not shoot then.
So.....Kiner's post? Kiner's post has no impact. It is only a post from Kiner. I have seen his posts on this forum before. Not impressive. As...
I haven't seen a report that said it was closed. I have not seen a report that said no wrong doing. The only thing I know is someone in the ATA...
Not saying he made it up. It is Kiner's opinion or it could be communication to the delegates, but it is not the entire report. Someone with your...
That is all it is. We have Kiner's posts here on record. Kiner could have posted the entire report. He did not. You know what it means and...
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